No4 Mk1 Serial Numbers
Posted : admin On 25.09.2019
Basic Enfield Identification and the Facts about Serial Numbers. Like the SMLE an all matching No4 or No5 will have all the serial numbers matching wherever they.
Following my local gun show today, I am now a proud owner of a gorgeous No.4 Mk.1 rifle. I am, however, having a bit of trouble working out the rifle's history. The rifle only has 4 digits in the serial number, and a PF prefix. The receiver markings have been painted-over at some point, and are difficult to read. They appear to say No.4 Mk.1 (F) 12/4 PF1419 The rifle has the flip-up target-style sight, and a brass buttplate. Due to the finish on the rifle, the pictures I took were either too dark or illegible, due to the glare from the flash.
Are there any other markings I should look for? Sponsored Links hoadie. I'll get some good pics tomorrow, once the sun comes out. When I came in from the show, it was getting ready to rain. Are there any areas specifically that should be photographed? Until then, let's see. More details.
The stock is dark, and appears to be some sort of walnut. The flip-up sight is labeled CR403,and has the click-adjustable worm gear for elevation.
The rifle came with the issue 'bore snake' inside the stock cavity. The cocking piece/striker is labeled N.67 Mk.2. The bolt is marked F.104 in multiple places, with an H 1 in the recess of the long lug. The bolt head is marked with a 2. The magazine matches the rifle's PF1419 serial. There is a stamping near the muzzle with the BNP insignia and.303 2.222' 18.5 tons per (a picture of a square) ' (Which I recall thinking was a rather novel way of writing 'per square inch') Almost every part has some sort of stamping, which makes it hard to tell what is meaningful and what isn't.
Additionally, closer inspection of the main stamping on the left side of the receiver (which is extremely faint due to the tough black paint applied over it) revealed that the date stamp is 12/47. Its been re-stamped I think. The second digit of the year is missing it should read '12(month)/ 4x (the X being the second digit of the year. The 'ENGLAND' is a U.S. Pre 1968 import stamp & so they re created a new serial number for it. Before the change might it have looked like this: No.4 Mk.1 (F)= No.4 Mk 1 (F) 12/4 PF1419= 12/4x PF xxxxx The 'wire loop' in front of the magazine isn't a sling swivel BTW its an old attachment originally for magazine chains & later for a canvas cover to keep the bolt covered.
Shamu wrote: Its been re-stamped I think. The second digit of the year is missing it should read '12(month)/ 4x (the X being the second digit of the year. The 'ENGLAND' is a U.S. Pre 1968 import stamp & so they re created a new serial number for it. Before the change might it have looked like this: No.4 Mk.1 (F)= No.4 Mk 1 (F) 12/4 PF1419= 12/4x PF xxxxx The 'wire loop' in front of the magazine isn't a sling swivel BTW its an old attachment originally for magazine chains & later for a canvas cover to keep the bolt covered.
It's difficult to see the receiver stampings, but I was able to find the last digit. (Seems there was some sort of really tough black paint applied over the markings) It reads No.4 Ml.1 (F) 12/47 PF 1419 The 4-digit serial appears on the receiver, the wrist, and the bottom of the magazine. This seems very odd to me, as I had read that nearly all no.4s (And all Fazakerleys) had 5-digit serials. Perhaps because the 'PF' prefix and the (F) in the model name indicate Fazakerley manufacture, they did away with the 1st-digit manufacturer code? PF xxxx instead of PF 2xxxx? Also, I've been unable to locate a serial number on the bolt.
Where would I look to find one? There is a stamping in the 'hollow' on the underside of the bolt handle, that looks like this. Unfortunately, there don't appear to be any corresponding serial numbers on the bolt handle. The stamping F.104 can be seen on the bolt body and the flat at the top of the handle. Smooth jazz at midnight rar programs.
I'm not sure what this means. In the hollow on the underside of the bolt handle is the F over 47 stamping.
And on the back, where one would normally find a serial number for the bolt, there are deep but incomplete markings. It appears there was once a serial stamped here, but it was either mis-stamped, resulting in an incomplete mark, was filled in with paint, or was ground off for whatever reason.
The more I look at the marks on this rifle, the less sense they seem to make.
I just bought one that has been sporterized and am waiting for it to arrive. It shipped today. I don't think I would modify the one you have - I'd hunt with it as is. Advanced Technology International makes a scope mount you can put on the rifle with no gunsmithing - here's a link to them on amazon: By doing it this way you get to preserve the entire original rifle so that it keeps it's value as an original military.303.
Granted, it'll weigh a couple extra pounds with the original stock vs. A sporterized stock but the trade off is that it stays original and you still can have a scope on it. I don't think I would modify the one you have - I'd hunt with it as is. Advanced Technology International makes a scope mount you can put on the rifle with no gunsmithing - here's a link to them on amazon: By doing it this way you get to preserve the entire original rifle so that it keeps it's value as an original military.303. Granted, it'll weigh a couple extra pounds with the original stock vs. A sporterized stock but the trade off is that it stays original and you still can have a scope on it.
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Click to expand.Agree 100% with Mr. Enfields, along with Mausers, Springfields, and virtually all of the classic military rifles of WW1 & 2 are becoming increasingly scarce, and expensive.
The.303 British is an impressive target and hunting cartridge, and I think you'll appreciate the few extra pounds of the rifle in its original configuration. The ATI scope mount will enable you to scope the rifle with no drilling & tapping or bolt alteration, and if you ever decide to return it to original spec it's simply a matter of removing the mount and reinstalling the factory rear sight. My deer rifle, incidentally, is an Enfield.303. They're really great rifles. The Firearms Forum is on online community for all gun enthusiasts.
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